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Oct 13, 2008 at 11:58 PM
Front Page arrow Opinions arrow The Bridge arrow Sisters: Date the Man, Not the Myth
Sisters: Date the Man, Not the Myth
Written by Darryl James, (Columnist), on 11-15-2007 13:02
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The young lady was cute and I could see from the other side of the room that she was checking me out. I was working the crowd at the business mixer and was already headed her way.

As I approached the table where she and her friends were sitting, she smiled and beckoned me over. Of course, I complied. She was assertive, not aggressive and I appreciated that.

We exchanged light conversation and then exchanged numbers. It was looking pretty good. She expressed a desire to get together at a later date.

Our conversation that night was encouraging. She talked about wanting to date an educated gentleman. I assured her I was one. I talked about wanting to date a nice, smart confident young lady and she assured me she was one.

I called her the next day and left a message. She called me back two days later, which wasn’t a problem when she explained that she was out of town.

Our second conversation started off well. She wanted to get to know me and began asking what I like. I asked the same of her and was feeling pretty good until she went there.

She began to express some negative sentiments about Black men.

I didn’t see it coming, but sadly, I was prepared. I stay ready because like all too many Black men, I frequently hear negativity about Black men from Black women.

The question is asked: “If you hear these things frequently, doesn’t that mean they ring of truth?” Well, the answer is the same as when White racists speak of Black men and women in the negative: “Just because something is popular does not mean that it is either true or good.”

McDonald’s is popular, but anyone who cares about their health realizes that it’s popularity doesn’t mean that it is good for the body.

Negativity is no different.

But I digress.

The lady wanted me to explain why “most” Black men prefer White women. Before I could explain how silly that question was, she wanted me to explain why “more” Black men are having secret sex with other men and spreading AIDS to Black women.

I knew we were done. And I knew how to end it before it started.

I began by introducing something that those conversations rarely feature: Truth.

Regarding the Black man’s alleged preference for White women, I informed her that in any television show, magazine or newspaper article, Black men are rarely quoted on their preference for dating White women over Black women. The White women we supposedly prefer are rarely quoted, and further, there are NEVER any studies, surveys or any other research presented.

The whole “down low” silliness suffers from the same failings.

Sadly, even after getting her to admit that there was no factual basis for her negative rhetoric about Black men, she still refused to let go. She insisted that since many of her friends held the same beliefs, that they must have validity.

I went straight to the chase. I asked her why she was interested in dating a Black man, since she obviously held very little hope for finding a good one. I sincerely wanted to know. I also needed to know what result she expected from telling a Black man how horrible Black men are.

Her answer? She wanted me to prove to her that good Black men exist. My response? Too much work for what will more than likely be without reward. I won’t prove to you that you are wrong if you are already convinced that you are right before I meet you, especially if I have to keep hearing how right you are.

The sad reality is that sisters who participate in the negativity campaign against Black men are in many cases, driving away the good brothers from their lives. How could you find a decent Black man, when you repel us by telling us up front how horrible we are?

This situation is a clear example of a relatively new movement that is ripping our already fragmented community apart. That movement is the proliferation of negative comments about Black men from Black women.

Too many Black women have a laundry list of complaints about the character (or lack thereof) of Black men. Some are based on narrow personal experiences, but most are based on nothing more than innuendo, rampant whispering from woman to woman and oh yes, those magazines.

There is no productive discussion in such a case. No amount of convincing conversation or demonstration of a Black man’s decency can diminish the negativity. It’s as if the negative Black women feel good thinking bad things about Black men.

The ironic part is that the chief complaint of Black men (myself included) about Black women is that we are dogged out so viciously by them. We are tired of hearing about how “many” or “most” of us are doing something, just because these women see or hear about some of us doing something.

It is ripping our community apart, because it makes open communication nearly impossible. The scenario with the young lady I mentioned earlier is a clear case in point. No matter what I could say to her, she refused to even become open to the idea that the things she says about Black men are negative, destructive and just plain wrong.

The question has to be asked: How many Black women want to date a Black man who talks incessantly about how whorish, greedy and bitchy Black women are? Do I need to provide the answer? Please give that some thought.

Black women, if you sincerely believe that Black men are choosing White women and other men over you, then you should stop attempting to date us. I can assure you that it won’t work, so save us both the trouble. Please, step away from the Black man.

But for my sisters who still have faith in us, leave the negativity campaign for the girl’s night out and approach us with hope, open dialogue with a positive, productive goal, concern for the future of Black relationships, and Black families. We have plenty to discuss outside of how horrible you may think we are and many of us are still hopeful about Black women.

It’s really that simple. Avoid starting a relationship with negativity.

That’s how to date a Black man.

Darryl James n is an award-winning author who is now a filmmaker. His first mini-movie, “Crack,” was released in March of 2006. He is currently filming a full length documentary. James’ latest book, “Bridging The Black Gender Gap,” is the basis of his lectures and seminars. Previous installments of this column can now be viewed at www.bridgecolumn.com. James can be reached at .

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Users' Comments (22)
Posted by PM, on 11-15-2007 17:35,
Where has this article been? YOU TOO??? 
 
Blame it on Oprah, the clown 'author' she put on her show, and any Black people that take ownership of the "being on the DL" concept as if it's unique to Black men!  
 
That episode of the Oprah show might have single handedly set Black male and female relationships back at least 50 years. As if Black men didn't have enough problems! 
 
You better win Barack! The brothaz need you more than ever!
 

Posted by JAZZ RUKIYA, on 11-15-2007 20:43,
My Beautiful Brotha, I hear your pain. I have had the pleasure of being raised around strong Black men, and I can honestly say that without you we are nothing. Unfortunately many sistas have been branwashed because their minds have been poisoned. They want the BMW, but they dont want to contribute to it, just reap the benefits. Weak black men, or those who dont love themselves go for the weak, pale, white woman. I think we as Black Queens need to learn how to respect our men, and build them up so we can be proud of them. There are good men out there. But they drive toyotas, not BMW
 

Posted by Tim, on 11-16-2007 00:00,
Interesting article.
 

Posted by Merrakesh, on 11-19-2007 02:57,
Oprah and that dayumed movie "the Color Purple" a movie that has not one redeeming black male character in the entire book, written by a lesbian, who before she was "out" married and had kids with a white man! 
And now Oprah has it on Broadway.... 
Can someone say AGENDA?
 

Posted by Teri, on 11-20-2007 14:24,
I was definately moe by this story. I almost question myself about how Ive treated the Black man, only to come to the same conclusion. If you dont really want to date a Black man then go be with someone else for whatever matter. I ALWAYS give props to my well-educated Black men that actually wanna do something with themselves. I even try to encourage the ones who are doing their 9 to 5 hustle to do something better for themselves. It goes Both ways for how the Black men and women treat each other and others around them. You have to treat others with repect & even be the bigger person sometimes
 

Posted by Ms, on 11-20-2007 14:24,
The article is very interesting and brings up a good point. If i can play devils advocate a little i would like to say that some of those comments that come from black women are usually out of sheer frustration. I am an open minded black women that seeks to date black men but it is so hard to get through their emotional baggage sometimes. Whether it be mommy issues or daddy issues black men are somtimes tough to deal with as is the same with black women. It takes a lot of patience and understanding in any relationship and it seems that we don't have any for each other in our relationships.
 

Posted by mELODY, on 11-21-2007 12:59,
That was a good article and I agree that the woman may just be fed up with the black men who she has met. The problem that I have experienced is that most black men are intimidated by successful black women. They are bothered by the fact that they are not "needed". This alone leaves the successful women no choice but to venture outside our race to find that Caucasian man who is not bothered by that fact...probably because he is just as successful. I still love the black man, but if I constrict myself to black men only, I'll probably be single for the rest of my life. I'm open to both races now
 

Posted by melody, on 11-21-2007 13:21,
The bottom line is that people have reasons for feeling the way that they do. Something got her to this point. We need to learn how to accept how people feel & just live our lives by what we feel is best for us. I don't believe that the woman in the article is totally turned off to black men. If she were, #s would not have been exchanged. She's just giving her opinion to someone who's fed up with her opinion. We can't knock her for what she has experienced and how it has scarred her. Black men have to be strong enough to understand what we've been through & if she's worth it, prove her wrong.
 

Posted by tiredblackman, on 11-23-2007 06:41,
Actually, the bottom line is that just because someone feels a certain way and has a reason, doesn’t mean they should try to make the rest of the world deal with that. And, it doesn’t mean that they are justified. We can knock her for being scarred and not trying to get over it. Instead of claiming that Black men have to be strong enough to understand, how about Black men AND Black women being strong enough to get over their past and move on to a hopeful future. No Black man is intimidated by successful women—it’s probably your ignorance and bad attitude that turns people off. Go ahead and ge
 

Posted by tiredblackman, on 11-23-2007 06:45,
Go ahead and get your white man, melody. It’s clear that no Black man wants you. We shouldn't have to pay for your past mistakes--get some therapy before you get that white man, or he won't want you either.
 

Posted by melody, on 11-23-2007 11:43,
Tireblackman, I'm sorry if my comment indicating that I "understand" bothered you that much that now I am ignorant, have a bad attitude and clearly no black man wants me. That was kind of bothersome that you would be so mean and extreme. And you have to wonder why black women get tired of black men?? Your response alone is a prime example. That's rather extreme for you to say that NO black men are intimidated by successful black women, don't u think? Find comfort in the fact that U may not be, but you can't speak for all black men, just like I can't speak for all black women.
 

Posted by MELODY, on 11-23-2007 11:59,
Why is it okay for u to be "tired", as your name indicates, but a problem if I woman is @ the same point? What's clear is that u will soon find yourself forced to date outside your race because no black woman is going to want u because of your demeaning attitude alone, without even taking the time to learn your other flaws. The fact that I can understand someone else's point of view means that I need therapy? Are u sure that it's me who should go? I'm not scarred, nor am I "tired", I just understand. Maybe no successful black woman has ever looked @ u twice, could that be y u don't understand?
 

Posted by successful as well, on 11-23-2007 12:21,
Melody, I understood everything that you said and experience the same type of issues with black men. My alternatives are to go outside my race or swtich over to the other side and I'm not ready for the latter. "Tiredness" response IS definitely an example of how black men degrade black women. The way he attacked personally was uncalled for, unprofessional and validates the fact that it's hard to find a good black man for many other reasons as well. Tiredblackman, your comment only validates why the woman in the article feels the way she does. You make the good black men look bad.
 

Posted by PM, on 11-23-2007 19:29,
I had to comment on Ms "Successful's" post, as well as make a general statement. 
 
The article takes a fundamental stand against Black Women who base their perceptions of Black Men on misconceptions, categorizations, and unproven concepts. Let's not lose sight of that. The concept is nothing new. Let's face it, of all men, Black Men are the least revered! And remember: the woman in this article came to the table with preconceived notions, with her mind pretty much - already made up. For the moment, we should agree that this is unacceptable. 
 
Ms Successful (and Ms Melody for that matter): Although you may be entitled to your opinions (which should not be disrespected and which have NOT been disrespected by all), your arguments for why "OTHERS" should be up for consideration over Black Men are curiously not very sound. Frankly, is there a sliver of a chance that deep down, you were willing to consider your options regardless of any negative perceptions of Black Men that you have? To say men find your success "Intimidating" or to suggest that the only options available to you now are to "Go to the other side - or to date outside your race" - to me appear to me to be cop-outs! How passionate are you truely in finding a good black man? Better yet - can I get a definition??? Success is relative, and personally I prefer an equal! Do I qualify if my money is as long as yours? 
 
I can't say I totally agree with "tiredbrutha's" approach, but I can damn sure say that I can relate to his frustrations! 
 
Just like the myth that "All white women are dosile and passive," it is a "MYTH" that there are no more good bruthas out there. Those are probably just "the guys you don't want!" Sisters that truly want to be in love with a black man will - and will be patient until he finds her (or she him). 
 

Posted by perfectgentleman, on 11-23-2007 21:40,
I totally disagreed with the response of tireblackman. This is the type of response that shapes black women's perceptions. The name calling was a bad approach, especially for a black man trying to justify that good black men still exist. Maybe the lady in the article should have kept her opinion to herself, but that still wouldn't change the fact that she felt that way. I have 4 sisters and the things they go through with black men makes it easy for me to understand the frustrations. If they decide to go outside their race in search of their soulmate, I couldn't be mad at them. I'm a good black man, but unfortunately I don't think there is enough of us out there to prove the black woman wrong.
 

Posted by the truth, on 11-26-2007 22:54,
I laugh at women who say there are no good black men. There are plenty,but alot of these women are brainwashed into thinking that money equals everything. So what if you make more than your man,does that make you better than him? To many so-called smart black women are being played by media hype,and instead of fighting it,. They choose to sit back and embrace it. I say good riddens to them. For someone to be dumb enough to think that the problems black men have are only applied to our race is dumb in itself. I welcome white men to take those sisters off our hands. Thank you!
 

Posted by tiredblackman, on 01-01-2008 05:30,
Oh, man, perfectgentleman, you are such a WOMAN. My words don’t shape black women’s perceptions, my words are shaped BY black women’s perceptions and it’s male wimps like you who make things worse. You don’t think there are enough good men out there, but how do you know? How many have you dated WOMAN? the black women who think that we are all bad need to be called out and the problem is that they talk about us all the time, but when we strike back, we are supposed to feel bad. It’s a war, bro and if someone hits me hard, im hittin hard too. Melody and mssuccessful are both bitter women. who cares if they leave the race or hate me?
 

Posted by tiredblackman, on 01-01-2008 05:35,
Its always something bad about bros in essence and oprah hates us too, but let a man try to stand up and women hate him. I don’t make good men look bad, I make good men look tired of hearing bitter women’s bulls…you can’t find a good man because you keep talking about all men being bad. We are TIRED of hearing that. Plus, you’re probably over 40 fat and not that pretty anyway. Just mooooove over and let a younger woman with hope take over. That’s whats going on—I don’t need white women when I can date younger black women who don’t hate me. And you old cows are just mad that younger black men don’t want you unless you got a lot of money and a tight body and you know you don’t. truth, you know it, baby, white men don’t want these bitter mean women either. That’s why they mad at us.
 

Posted by tiredblackman, on 01-01-2008 05:39,
Why are only black women focused on how many black men are intimidated by successful women? What is there to be afraid of? NOTHING! Black women made that up and black me are tired of hearing it. We are not intimidated we are disgusted by a woman who thinks her money means something. Let it go! Deal with something real, like your bad attitude or the fact that yu think we are garbage or the fact that youspent twenty five years chasing weak men likeperfectgentleman and then cant handle that the good men your age are either married or dating younger women whoi are still happy and in good shape. You did this to yourself so don’t be mad at us.
 

Posted by PM, on 01-02-2008 00:57,
As your fellow constituent my brutha, may I say 'Whoa Boy" to you? Although I agree with many of your points, I challenge you to direct your energy in a way that makes it unlikely that you will be construed as a "Bitter Brutha". Lets' not inject bitterness in our dialog in a way that rivals what we often perceive as bitterness on the part of Black woman. I believe it's counter productive and only further helps strain the relationship. Let's succumb to the notion that we equally share a role in mending the failing relationship between us, and work towards finding ways to "rekindle" so to speak. The less negativity - the better in my humble opinion.
 

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